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Why are Pagans bullying other Pagans, and fighting with one another?

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Answer #1 | 27/12 2013 16:31
Pagans/heathens seldom "bully" each other. We have a very strong sense of what is referred to as "frith" in Scandinavian/Germanic traditions, but is also followed by Celt's and most other European traditions. Besides....most of us own swords ;) We also have no expectation of all cultural traditions being alike...so respect the differences and similarities between our customs equally. That said....neo-pagans often accuse pagans of being bullies when we point out that their information is in error, or correct claims they are making regarding our cultural customs and traditions that are in error. Cultural customs are not a "It can be what we want it to be" deal. They are traditions and customs handed down by our ancestors, and are not open for new age reinterpretation, or borrowing by people who are not members of our culture. This is unfortunately creating more and more of a division as time goes on....with pagans becoming increasingly frustrated by the cultural appropriation, and misrepresentation of cultural traditions that occurs in the neo-pagan traditions. The neo-pagan communities unfortunately have a long history of "witch wars" and bullying, regarding differences in traditions and so forth. In my experience (of over thirty years) it more often than not boils down to broken people with over sized ego's...trying to convince everyone else they are the "real deal". EDIT: If you want an example of a well balanced, and knowledgable wiccan...look to Mackenzi.
Answer #2 | 27/12 2013 20:10
Bullying is wrong, but stating facts about Wicca is not bullying. In Traditional Wicca, for instance, you don't get fully 90% of the teachings unless you're initiated by an initiate. That's just the fact of the matter. It's not bullying to say that. I don't go so far as to say that uninitiated Wiccans who don't have access to the oathbound material aren't "real Wiccans," but self-study is NOT THE SAME as getting the teachings from an initiate. When stating such facts is seen as bullying, then we've got a problem. People should be polite, sure. But we're not doing anyone any favors by telling them they can call themselves a surgeon because they read "Grey's Anatomy." Same thing with the Wiccan religion. You can't call yourself someone who has the teachings if you don't have the teachings. However, that doesn't mean a self-taught, uninitiated person cannot have a very fulfilling relationship with the Gods. If initiation doesn't mean anything to a particular Wiccan and he or she only wants a solitary path, then that's fine. But to suggest that it's the same thing to self-study vs. getting the training and initiation is simply and utterly false. Bullying is wrong, but clarifying facts in a simple and non-judgmental manner is NOT bullying. And Mackenzie is dead on when she says that we can and should debate in a respectful manner.
Answer #3 | 27/12 2013 22:12
I know lots of people in the neo-pagan community and for the most part they are very friendly and pleasant... however, there are always a few jerks in any group. Usually it's people who are only there because they want to be different and get attention... which means they have some personality problems, and often can't get along with others.
Answer #4 | 27/12 2013 23:12
Is there alot of bullying in the Pagan community? Huh. I never noticed. Honestly I've been Pagan for over a year now and I have not once came into contact with another Pagan bullying me or someone else. Every single Pagan I've talked to has been super nice and helpful.
Answer #5 | 29/12 2013 08:57
Unfortunately, bullying is a reality in any group. That said, I don't think Pagans are particularly guilty of this any more than, say, people of Abrahamic faiths. I think the majority of bad blood I come into contact with is when serious Pagans encounter people (especially teenagers) who think that because they read a couple of books of New Age dribble, watched "The Craft" and "Harry Potter," and maybe dabble in magic a little that they are expert Pagans/witches and members of whatever religion (usually Wicca) they identify with when they have no idea, and not only is their understanding of Pagan religions and magic totally misguided but it's being taken by non-Pagans to be representative of us all, which gives serious Pagans a bad name and makes people think we're all a bunch of flaky, eccentric, teenagers.
Answer #6 | 29/12 2013 08:33
Pagans are spiritual, and wise. NO they aren't, they maybe wise to things that are useless but they have no real wisdom, that can only come from GOD and they don't know HIM.

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